The seat post is just stuck for clamping purposes on my workstand, I forgot to lower the saddle a bit before I took the pics. My arms and torso are reasonably long, so the reach on the stem isn't too much an issue. Your tips about saddle height in relation to the bars are a big help. This stock mag pic of an MB1 with a more conventional diamond frame with drop bars is a good referenceДЄwesome info, and thanks for the input and the pics. You can take the same measurement from the middle of the saddle to the drops and see how close you are. One rule of thumb I stole from someone a while back is to measure between the middle of my saddle and my grips on a bike I know fits me well and is comfortable. If you lowered that seat a bit the bar to saddle orientation would work better in my opinion. I have a set of the older ones and they have a much shallower drop. If you are a big person that has a long torso thats probably good, otherwise maybe too much reach? Those must be the newer version of Gary bars. That looks like a pretty big frame and the extension on that stem puts it out there quite a bit. In the end its really all about you and your size and how you fit that set-up.

Being bent over is great for aero on road bikes, but just doesnt work off road.at least thats what I have found. Is that your normal saddle height, or is the post just stuck in for the pic? I love riding drop bar mountain bikes and I always set the drop to be almost level with the saddle to keep me in the drops comfortably without being hunched-over.

Good looking bike! I have had a few wickeds that I considered doing a dirt drop set-up on, and another friend that had an early FAT that he used for running aspalt laps on with dirt drops.

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